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[BLDG-SIM] Bulilding Simulation Software for Pools



Hello:
 
There's a 1985 ASHRAE paper on using DOE-2 to do pool modeling...or at least attempts to do so, entitled: Haberl, J., Claridge, D. 1985. "Retrofit Energy Studies of a Recreation Center",  ASHRAE Transactions-Research, Volume 91, Part 2, pp.  1421 - 1433, (June). In this paper we forced DOE-2 to do the cooling
and dehumidification, which I is probably not the best tool for doing this since DOE-2 does not directly control humidity. You should also get the definitive work by Francis DeWinter, Atlas Corp., written about the same time on pool heat loss/gain equations and then use something like TRNSYS to do your own modeling. I'm sure there may already be some good modeling for doing the pool modeling, and a literature search of the obvious places would reveal what others have done.  However, combined pool modeling, with radiative, mass exchange, convection, and system interactions would be a complex exercise that needs an industrial-strength simulation. Hence the need for a general purpose solver like TRNSYS or EES, perhaps coupled with a CFD model that has a radiative network and all the necessary environmental models (i.e., solar, wind, sky loss, ground coupling, etc.).
 
Jeff

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-----Original Message-----
From: postman@xxxxxxxx [mailto:postman@xxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David Stewart
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:58 AM
To: BLDG-SIM@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Bulilding Simulation Software for Pools

Dear Group:
 
I am looking at a 50.000 indoor pool and my question is this:
Would Visual DOE be the preferred tool to simulate the building.  It will have a dehumidifcation heat pump for the pool and a combination of distributed heat pumps and radiant floor water to water heat pumps fed by an open loop system.
 
Thanks
 
Dave Stewart
 

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