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[BLDG-SIM] Simulating in-suite HRV's on FC type systems using eQUEST



Brian:
 
I was taught a trick by an old dog, Mr.. Bruce Birdsall of Lawrence Berkeley Labs, who was in on the original creation of DOE-2. along with Fred Winkleman, Jeff Hirsch, and Fred Buhl. HELLO to all of these people.
 
Bruce told me to use an induction system in the guest rooms (I was heavily into Hilton Hotels at the time). Such a system allowed primary and secondary heating and cooling coils, and by using  the bypass ratio, allowed outside air to entrain. I don't have time to research the exact bypass ration, or all the stuff I did (it was in DOE-2.1C version).
 
But that would allow you to use outside air with virtually a fan coil system, either two or four pipe. Then the corridor air is on it's own loads and system.
 
Try it.

 -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Fountain [mailto:greensim@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:15 PM
To: BLDG-SIM@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Simulating in-suite HRV's on FC type systems using eQUEST

I am using eQUEST to model a high-rise multi-unit residential building (in a cold climate).  The mechanical system most likely for selection will include 2-pipe fan coils (with a supplementary electric coil) in the suites and a corridor make-up air unit.  The in-suite fan coils under consideration have an outdoor air intake and an air-to-air heat exchanger to recover heat from the suite washroom exhaust.  This is not how the FC fan coil system is set up in DOE 2.2 - and there is no provision for heat recovery at the fan-coil level.  I am using the OA-FROM-SYS keyword which moves the entire ventilation load to the corridor make-up air system where heat recovery can be applied.  Doing this appears to greatly improve the energy performance of the building.  I am wondering if modeling the system in this was is over-stating performance of the heat recovery.

 

I am wondering if there is experience within the group to better model such a system.  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Kind regards,

 

Brian Fountain, P.Eng.

Energy Engineer

 

GreenSim

 

(905)639-6014 -- voice

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bfountain@xxxxxxxxxx

 

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